[dfort n00b] My first tantrum-spiral | Video Games Open (2024)

shodan said:

EIGHTY COFFINS LATER and I'm very nearly done cleaning up the mess.

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"This is why we can't have nice things!"

Stephenls said:

"This is why we can't have nice things!"

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"The dwarves suspend construction of Rock Coffin: Giant pile of corpses obstructing path."

DivineCoffeeBinge said:

Coffins are wonderful things - because not only do they eliminate the bad thoughts from seeing dwarf-corpses, but winessing a dwarf's burial in a nice coffin in a nice room can actually cause a good thought.

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Ooh! So I wasn't wasting time engraving my catacombs in all those forts? Or does it only work if the coffin is actually designated a tomb?

David Laurence said:

Ooh! So I wasn't wasting time engraving my catacombs in all those forts? Or does it only work if the coffin is actually designated a tomb?

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I was /wondering/ about the distinction between a regular burial coffin and a tomb.

Right now, all my coffins are in a 10x10 room, packed in like sardines (largely due to the murderous crisis in progress). I guess tombs are kind of like Bedrooms and Offices, in that they can be assigned to specific d0rfs?

shodan said:

I was /wondering/ about the distinction between a regular burial coffin and a tomb.

Right now, all my coffins are in a 10x10 room, packed in like sardines (largely due to the murderous crisis in progress). I guess tombs are kind of like Bedrooms and Offices, in that they can be assigned to specific d0rfs?

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You guess correctly. Some nobles will demand tombs of certain qualities.

David Laurence said:

Ooh! So I wasn't wasting time engraving my catacombs in all those forts? Or does it only work if the coffin is actually designated a tomb?

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Per the wiki:

While tombs can be designated from coffins, only some nobles specifically demand them. The more self-important the noble, the more ornate the tomb must be, naturally.

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so you don't have to assign tombs to everyone (and in fact, per wiki, "a coffin that's assigned as a tomb with an owner of "nobody" will not be used for general burial"), you just hafta make a nice Hall Of Honored Dead packed to the gills with coffins.

DivineCoffeeBinge said:

So you don't have to assign tombs to everyone (and in fact, per wiki, "a coffin that's assigned as a tomb with an owner of "nobody" will not be used for general burial"), you just hafta make a nice Hall Of Honored Dead packed to the gills with coffins.

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Right. I was wondering if engraving my HotHD and/or using quality coffins in it will make for happy funeral thoughts for friends of dwarfs buried there, or if the quality of coffins / engravings only matter if the coffin is in a room-designated Tomb.

I mean, I always engrave it anyway, because engravers need something constructive to do, but still.

Here's a couple funny messages that I've never seen before.

While the tantrum-spiral was winding down: "New migrants have arrived, despite the danger." (Many of 'em got killed by berzerk dwarves, I'm sure.)

Now that my f0rt's been productive and ticking over like clockwork, a season or two later: "Some migrants have decided to brave this terrifying place, knowing it may be their tomb."

Guys! All those problems we had were in the *past*! Ancient history! Painthails is a /wonderful/ place to be a dwarf; there's certainly no shortage of work and plenty of economic ore left to dig and refine, and we've only just recently constructed a grand burial vault! Fresh drinking water is coming Very, Very Soon! There's nothing to worry about here!

EDIT: Ohf*ck, I missed something. Stockpile: "Foods: 615. Drink: 4". GO, FARMERS! FARM LIKE YOU'VE NEVER FARMED BEFORE!

Lamoth said:

I don't know if this is actually correct but I think I read on the official forum that shells are created by cooking cave lobster now. I haven't tried it yet, though.

My problem atm: Are merchant wagons still in the game? I have full depot access with no obstacles blocking the 3 wide wagons and yet the dwarves and humans only arrive with their mules. Am I missing something?

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I don't get shells from cave lobsters but I do get some from turtles. Maybe it's a bug?
OTOH I have set both to "no cooking" to ensure normal eating.

Monkey King said:

Make sure you can trace a path all the way to the map's edge. All it takes is a couple extant boulders to block the wagons. At worst, you might need to build a road just to make sure.

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I have seen no wagon in a caravan so far, maybe you get them only if the caravan is really big, after some time trading with that civ?

DivineCoffeeBinge said:

Per the wiki:
so you don't have to assign tombs to everyone (and in fact, per wiki, "a coffin that's assigned as a tomb with an owner of "nobody" will not be used for general burial"), you just hafta make a nice Hall Of Honored Dead packed to the gills with coffins.

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I remember that in the previous version, standard dorf will get a bad though if they don't have a tomb, but it happens after a couple years.
I would bothe only for legendary dorfs though...